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  • TaoWhat

    add as unmoderated.

  • Wow, Desmond has seen the future in both “bizzaro” flashes!

    Hurley a Libby was sweet!!!! Loved that memory flash Hugo had when she kissed him.

    Poor Illiana… kaboooom like Dr Arnst!

    Desmond!!

  • sparafucile

    Who didn’t see Ilana blowing up? I said “Kaboom” about a millisecond before the actual explosion.
    .
    Mini theory: Desmond is the Guardian/Avenging Angel ala Kara Thrace in BSG.

  • sparafucile

    …anyone else notice the Gene Wilder audio from the psychadelic tunnel in Willy Wonka, in the 6.13 preview?

    • Uh, Doi…
      Who didn’t notice that??
      It really was pretty dang perfect for the ride this show is taking us on, huh?
      That part always has and always will give me the creeps.

  • mw

    a couple of weks ago i said to a friend “i bet that alt-john locke is actually MIB”. I’m kindof standing by that right about now!

  • boonesghost

    Ilana getting blown up, saw it coming. Desmond running over Locke, nope. I was really hoping we’d see a lot more of Ilana, but like Ben said, the island was done with her.

  • OtherJacob

    Gotta love how much the writers are having to speed things up. In any other season it would have taken 2 episodes for Ilana to get dynamite from the Black Rock. Last night I believe it took 2 minutes.

    I’m also glad to see that we’re starting to get a few more answers. The way they answered The Whispers seemed a little like getting hit over the head with a brick, but at least the answer was legit. I was paranoid it was going to be something like voices of Dharma observers from the future or something a-la-“Matrix”.

  • Barnes (#17)

    Ever since the closing shot in episode 1×3 “Tabula Rasa” I had a feeling that John Locke was going to be a key player and a very interesting character. Was it the villain like scar over his right eye that spoke of things to come? Was it more to do with the dark and moody music and slow circling camera movement (refering to the formentioned scene)which continued to be used throughout the series involing this character? In episode 1×4 “Walkabout” we certainly got confirmation. John Locke was indeed “special”. It’s fascinating to watch Terry O’Quinn change the entire feel of a scene with just a very slight facial expression. One moment calm and complaisant, the next moment menacing. In episode 6×12 when Jack walks into the MIB’s camp we have one of these “HOLY S*#T” scenes were you just know dire consequences are in store. It’s going to be big folks. It’s going be loud. IT’S GOING TO BE SENSATIONAL!!!

  • A,ment

    I don’t see the rate and rate thread up yet. I liked this episode, whispers are answered yet not shocking meanwhile it was driving me crazy through S1. The end scene with Des plowing into poor John Locke I think was an awakening, seeing that Helen was an off island love that wouldn’t have worked, but near death experiences Locke is no stranger to regarding the island which should flood back a few memories. It was a point to mention that he had a chance to wake up Ben, except he has never met Ben until the day he shot him. Why wake him up if he’s a better person now anyways right?

    • notsoshaggy

      I didn’t think of that– that Desmond was doing to Locke what Charlie did to him re: a near death experience. Pretty obvious, now that I see it!

      As far as the Whispers. . . not to look a gift horse in the mouth as far as getting answers goes, but that struck me as somewhat unsatisfying. All I could think of was younger Ben instructing Danielle to “run whenever she hears the Whispers.” That implied that the Others were connected to it or controlled it in some way.

    • amy

      I think he is one trying to prove that Locke cannot be killed, and two trying to “show him something”. When they cut to Locke laying the street having convulsions, he certainly looks as though he is “seeing something”. I am quite curious to see what exactly happens when Locke is awakened…if indeed he is responsible for this universe (which at this point I doubt he is).

      Interesting to me that Desmond calls him John Locke, with no doubt he sees John Locke. Have the other characters and us viewers all been mistaken in thinking Locke is only the shell for the MIB…could he really still be the John Locke we know? They have been elluding to his having the real Locke’s memories and traits all season…

    • bps

      I am not buying the whispers answer. Reason? Right here.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gDhAod6Y24

      If what Michael said is true; that whenever we hear whispers, the person that turns up/appears is really dead, then Harper is dead in the above episode back in season 4. I have a hard time believing that someone who is dead is gonna take orders from Ben. Especially, if they didn’t even like him when they were alive.

      Prediction….Michael’s answer about the whispers….BIG RED Herring

  • OtherJacob

    It is possible that FST Locke dying could cause him to resurrect in the OT. All the jokes that Damon Lindelof and Carleton Cuse keep making about a “Zombie Season” could actually be a hint of this happening. Seeing Locke’s hand come out of the dirt a-la-“Kill Bill vol. 2” would be classic!

  • I do not think we are done with Ilana. We have 2 characters on the show who can speak with the dead. I think Jacob wanted her to become a spirit on the island so that he could use her.

    Jacob is now also a spirit on the island so maybe we will get a spirit army, perhaps if John Locke gets killed in the flash sideways he will also become part of this spirit army.

    This would relate back to Starwars like a lot of stuff in the show when Ben says to Vader “Strike me down and I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine.”

    This power is somehow bound to the magnetism and energy on the island, that is why MIB can not leave the island becuse like the rest of the spirits he is stuck there but has figured out a way to manifest itself as smoke and in other shapes.

    A magnet has two sides one is positive the other negative, two players two sides one is dark the other is light.

    As such the good guys (or spirits) are stuck by the positive energy and the bad guys (or spirits) are stuck to the negative energy.

    If you were to generate an oscillating magnetic field that switched back and forth between positive and negative it could destroy said spirits such as MIB.

    That is what the Pylons do and that is what Desmond is for to lead MIB into a trap where he could be destroyed

  • OtherJacob

    For the second time this season, there was a reference to dinosaur ages. First off it was when Jack and Hurley re-discovered Adam and Eve. Hurley mentions the possibility of them “going back to dinosaur ages” and Adam and Eve being two of the 815ers.

    Last night, at the award ceremony, Chang mentions that the museum of natural history is going to name the new Paleontology wing after Hurley. For those who don’t know, paleontology is the study of dinosaurs. I’m wondering if this is some foreshadowing that Hurley’s right and they will flash in time once more to an ancient time period.

    • amy

      I wonder if it is eluding to the extinction of the dinosaurs, having something to do with what is presumably about to happen if “our world ceases to exist”.

  • corematt

    Here’s my theory. So far the island has been all about the balance between Black or White (Bad or Good, not Evil or Good). The problem is, as with anything in life Black and White will eventually fade to Grey. And this is why we aren’t 100% sure if who’s the real good guy, Jacob or MIB.

    Enter Desmond. Des has found a way to rescue eveyone from the Black vs. White conflict. Love.

    My guess is that Desmond is a Christ-like figure in which he’ll use love to rescue everyone from this cosmic conflict with his own life as a sacrifice. The electromagnetistism Widmore exposes him to, is like his “baptism.” Now he’s ready to carry out his mission.

  • cap10tripps

    I feel like Locke and Jack are sort of like Libby and Hugo or Des and Pen. They complete each other in a cosmic way (man of science, man of faith). I believe Des ran over Locke to bring him to Jack…

    • Bakedbob

      Nice thought…but ALTlocke has already met with Jack and that didnt ring any bells…maybe they should “sideways”kiss like hugo and libby… lol

      • cap10tripps

        LOL. That’s my point though. They haven’t “sideways kissed” yet. Perhaps Jack will perform surgery, Locke will regain use of his legs, and something big will happen.

  • GettingArztedWithIlana

    Hey How come the WHISPERS have been explained and NOBODY GIVES A SH–?????

    • Backedbob

      Because it came quite “flat” for many…

  • Ever since the closing shot in episode 1×3 “Tabula Rasa” I had a feeling that John Locke was going to be a key player and a very interesting character. Was it the villain like scar over his right eye that spoke of things to come? Was it more to do with the dark and moody music and slow circling camera movement (refering to the formentioned scene)which continued to be used throughout the series involing this character? In episode 1×4 “Walkabout” we certainly got confirmation. John Locke was indeed “special”. It’s fascinating to watch Terry O’Quinn change the entire feel of a scene with just a very slight facial expression. One moment calm and complaisant, the next moment menacing. In episode 6×12 when Jack walks into the MIB’s camp we have one of these “HOLY S*#T” scenes were you just know dire consequences are in store. It’s going to be big folks. It’s going be loud. IT’S GOING TO BE SENSATIONAL!!!