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Ch… Ch… Ch… Chang, turn and face the strain

By Tapdawg,

  Filed under: Dharma Wants You
  Comments: 47

So much information has been revealed to us in the last 5 days, I thought I would try to collect it all into one article. First off, I would like to thank Tapdawg for all his wonderful work bringing us “on the floor” reports, videos and information from Comic Con 08.

 

Here is a list of theories and summations that I have gleaned from the new Dharma video,  Dharma Wants You website, comments of other Lost fans and some research.

 

 

 

cheng.jpg1) On the online sign up page of the Dharma Wants You website, the default date populated in the birth date field is the date that the new Dharma video was filmed, that date being July 17th, 1978. That would co-inside with Chang’s dialog which says that the video was film 30 years ago.

2) Chang mentions the Kerr Metric, which if you look on Wikipedia, the following paragraph could relate to what happened to the Island. “Even stranger phenomena can be observed within the innermost region of this spacetime, such as some forms of time travel. For example, the Kerr metric permits closed, time-like loops in which a band of travelers’ returns to the same place after moving for a finite time by their own clock; however, they return to the same place and time, as seen by an outside observer.” I suspect the Island will return to the same place and time as it was when it vanished, yet days, months or years may have passed for anyone on or near the Island.

3) It was Faraday filming the video, possibly during the time that the Island was “gone.”

4) In regard to Chang’s statement “Jennifer, take him out of here…” in reference to a crying baby on the video, we will find out that that is HIS baby and it is Miles.

5) One of the reasons Miles is on the Island is to contact his dead father, Pierre Chang.

6) Chang knows a LOT more about the future of the Dharma Initiative than just the upcoming purge in 1992. He looks at his arm in the video and touches it. We have seen him in other videos with a prosthetic arm and possibly a glass eye. This indicates that it is possible that research done on the Island after July 1978 was in effort to “change” the future, even though Cheng is aware that it’s not possible.

7) Season 5’s story telling technique will be to show what’s happening on the Island’s “now” and the rest of the worlds “now,” even though they are 30 years apart.

 

Input?

 

WLN


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  • Team Lena

    The video of Cheng has a weird voice in it that I would LOVE for someone with sound talents to figure out..

    It happens right after this:

    Cheng: A source that has proven itself to be credible.

    Faraday: nah nah nah….none of it matters just get to it. please.

    Cheng: Reguardless..

    **WEIRD VOICE**

  • According to Lostpedia, the actor who plays Candle has confirmed that the name is Chang, not Cheng.

  • DustinCahill

    CAUSE HE’S ASIAN!

  • WLN

    LBDG said: “According to Lostpedia, the actor who plays Candle has confirmed that the name is Chang, not Cheng.”

    I have made the corrections to the name in this article. Thank’s for pointing it out. The last spelling I saw was “cheng.”

    WLN

  • desmond’s beard

    LOL

    So the majority of your theory is based on the fact that both Miles and Chang are Asian?

    Well surely that means John Locke and Stone Cold Steve Austin are somehow related as they’re both bald..

  • AliKzam

    The Purge happened in 1992? I guess I just assumed it took place some time in the early to mid ’80s.

  • WLN

    desmond’s beard said: “LOL. So the majority of your theory is based on the fact that both Miles and Chang are Asian? Well surely that means John Locke and Stone Cold Steve Austin are somehow related as they’re both bald..”

    No. my theory is based on what is called critical thinking. It seems like each of our science team (Faraday, Lewis, Straume and Lapidas) all have some relation to the Island. Faraday with his journal of copious notes, many relating directly to the Island, the possibility that his voice is on the new Dharma video and the fact that he was crying when he heard about the 815 crash, as if he had pre-knowledge of the incident. Charlotte with her apparant knowledge of where the polar bear in Tunisia came from and the comment about her place of birth and Frank was suppose to be the pilot of 815. This builds a past connection of these three characters to the Island.

    That leaves us with Miles. Chang called the crying baby “he.” On Island, Chang is the only PRINCIPLE (speaking role) character we’ve seen who is Asian. Miles could easily be about 30 years old. We know, by Chang’s dialog on the video, that it was made about 30 years from our viewing. Chang was sure he would be dead by the time anyone viewed the video. And Miles seems very much interested in “dead” people on the Island.

    I’m not sure if your comment had some “other” meaning, but if you were implying that I was creating a racial stereotype in my theory, well then I’m sorry. I wasn’t. I was simply tying possibilities together and comparing two main characters. Thier Asian profile is only a small part of my comments.

    Oh, and I thought Locke was related to the Mr. Clean. LO louder.

    WLN

  • WLN

    AliKzam said: “The Purge happened in 1992? I guess I just assumed it took place some time in the early to mid ’80s.”

    From Lostpedia – “The Purge occurred at 4 P.M. on December 19, 1992 – Ben’s birthday.”

    WLN

  • Joe_Key

    During the Pierre Chang video, it sounds like 2 other people are in the room with him, the camera man and another person maybe standing off to the side behind the camera. Pierre Chang keeps looking past the camera, and seems to speak to him when it cuts out, the direction he is looking IMO couldnt be where the person shooting the video is standing. You can see Pierres eyes shift focus with 2 different people also

    The voices sound like Faraday and Minkowski maybe, or Miles. You can hear the other guy starting to talk then the camera man interupting him right away, on both parts after it cuts out then comes back in.

    On the first cut out, at 3:15, i hear one man (the one standing further from the camera) say “None of that matters” and immediatly u hear the man holding the camera say “It doesnt matter, just get to it. Please.”

    It then cuts out again, and when it comes back in, the guy further from the camera says something but its jumbled, and mid sentence he is interupted by the camera guy who says “Theyre never going to see this Peter, how do i turn this off?”

    The man who says “None of that matters” and is interupted the other time he speaks sounds like Faraday. The guy holding the camera doesnt sound anything like Faraday to me, he even has an accent. The way he talks is more like Minkowski or Miles to a lesser extent. But either way, i can distinctly hear 2 seperate voices, and the pitch of both voices are so different they cant be from the same person.

  • arrg

    “Chang is the only PRINCIPLE (speaking role) character we’ve seen who is Asian.”

    Aren’t Jin and Sun Asain?

    Otherwise I totally agree with you

  • arrg

    “Chang is the only PRINCIPLE (speaking role) character we’ve seen who is Asian.”

    Aren’t Jin and Sun Asian?

    Otherwise I totally agree with you

  • Woz06

    Naomi complained of the competency of the Miles, Daniel & Charlotte for the mission but Abaddon was adamant it was to be them

  • Woz06

    Naomi complained of the competency of the Miles, Daniel & Charlotte for the mission but Abaddon was adamant it was to be them

  • Definitely agree with your synopsis. Very insightful!

  • Bezmina

    So do we think Lapidus has links other than that he “should” have been flying the plane.
    I wonder what happened to him and Des and Penny. I can’t help thinking Des and Penny will have to go back too as it may be the only place she is safe from Ben. Until Sayid arrives perhaps…..?

  • WLN

    arrg said: “‘Chang is the only PRINCIPLE (speaking role) character we’ve seen who is Asian.’ Aren’t Jin and Sun Asian? Otherwise I totally agree with you”

    I should have been a bit clearer on that statement. I was talking about Dharma related personal, pre-815 survivors.

    WLN

  • Zonker

    I don’t get your theory about Season 5 storytelling.

    If the *island* moved back in time 30 years, wouldn’t it have to be in a different place than the original island with the 30-years-ago Dharma? Or are you suggesting the remaining 815ers get super-imposed on top of the 30-years-ago island with the DI, etc? I guess that would explain how Chang and Faraday made the vid together. Hmmm.

  • I’ve thought Miles was Chang’s son since the first time I set eyes on him. I’;ve been saying it for months on my podcast – LostMythos…”We’re all here for a reason!” It makes perfect sense: the daddy issues, the age, the island. Mile sis the baby crying in the video. I disagree that the Island will reappear where it was and time moved for everyone else. Due to the time structure I am thinking the Island will pop back in 2007/2008 and the O6 will be right there waiting for it. I do think though that Faraday and Jin both jumped to different times, especially Faraday because of his past exposure to magnetic radiation, similar to Desmond. This also makes sense with Locke becoming more a man of science. I think Locke will be for the reconstitution of Dharma.

  • WLN

    W. Axel Foley said: “I’ve thought Miles was Chang’s son since the first time I set eyes on him. I’;ve been saying it for months on my podcast – LostMythos…”We’re all here for a reason!” It makes perfect sense: the daddy issues, the age, the island. Mile sis the baby crying in the video. I disagree that the Island will reappear where it was and time moved for everyone else. Due to the time structure I am thinking the Island will pop back in 2007/2008 and the O6 will be right there waiting for it. I do think though that Faraday and Jin both jumped to different times, especially Faraday because of his past exposure to magnetic radiation, similar to Desmond. This also makes sense with Locke becoming more a man of science. I think Locke will be for the reconstitution of Dharma.”

    For the sake of story telling, I don’t think that the writers will stick precisely with the Kerr Metric features, but the Island will reappear a bit into the “current” future (versus appearing at the same time it left), but the “time” location of the Island is about 30 years in the past.

    Building on what you are saying about Faraday, I would say Desmond becomes VERY important to him now, since he will be Faraday’s constant. For that matter, I think we could connect every “current time” character as a constant of anyone that moved in time with the Island.

    Zonker said: “I don’t get your theory about Season 5 storytelling.If the *island* moved back in time 30 years, wouldn’t it have to be in a different place than the original island with the 30-years-ago Dharma? Or are you suggesting the remaining 815ers get super-imposed on top of the 30-years-ago island with the DI, etc? I guess that would explain how Chang and Faraday made the vid together. Hmmm.”

    What I am suggesting is that on the Island, it is 30 years in the past, and we will see the Island populated by the Dharma folks. Our characters that moved with the Island are now part of the band of Others. Off Island, our survivors are in their “now.” And the same amount of time will pass for all involved. If it takes Jack and Ben and fellow travellers 6 months to get back to the Island, our time travellers will have spent 6 months in the past on the Island.

    And no, it wouldn’t have to be in a different place. The Island has not moved in place, only in time. Think of a sphere, with many concentric circles. The outer most circle is “now.” Each inner circle is a different time line, the closer to the center, the further back in time. Jack and others are on the outer most circle. Locke and others are on the next band closer to the center, 30 years in the past. But the WHOLE circle sits in the same physical spot. These are timelines, not time places.

    WLN

  • sweeney

    if the island goes back 30 years, whose to say that locke, sawyer and juliet arent going to suddenly be intertwined with the dharma group who arrive at that time. in other words maybe locke is “jacob” and maybe sawyer and juliet are adam and eve. maybe the big twist is that when jack etc get back, they are 30 years too late and their friends are dead. maybe locke got off the island but somehow was trapped in some sort of parallel place making him jacob (a la neo in matrix revolutions) and also causing his death off island.

    its all a bit messy but i think the idea of miles being changs son, and charlotte being faradays daughter is plausible in this particular instance.
    as for lapidus’ link i have no idea. maybe he’s jacob!

    just a thought.

  • Laura

    arrg posted:
    “Chang is the only PRINCIPLE (speaking role) character we’ve seen who is Asian.
    Aren’t Jin and Sun Asian?”

    I don’t think we ever learned who Jin’s birth father was, did we? I am horrible with ages. Is Jin around 30? Another Asian male character was Jai Lee. We know his father owns a posh hotel in Korea, but we don’t know anything about his mother. We also don’t know if the hotel owner is his birth father, stepfather or father through adoption. Additionally, wasn’t Jai Lee engaged to a woman from some university in eastern US?

    Miles clearly knows things about Ben. Further, when Miles asked Ben if Ben knew who he was, Ben says he does. I had a feeling watching that exchange that Miles might be Ben’s illegitimate son. Ben could well have had an affair with an Oriental woman (or 2 or 3) during one of his many off Island excursions. We know Jin’s mother was a prostitute. Wouldn’t it be so far out if this were true, making Jin and Miles siblings in a manner similar to Jack and Claire? Another crackpot theory from yours truely. LOL

    I’m not really going anywhere with this, just throwing some more ideas into the soup.

    ********

    Woz06 posted

    “The Daniel on the video sounds short and angry

  • WLN

    Laura said: “I don’t think we ever learned who Jin’s birth father was, did we? I am horrible with ages. Is Jin around 30? Another Asian male character was Jai Lee. We know his father owns a posh hotel in Korea, but we don’t know anything about his mother. We also don’t know if the hotel owner is his birth father, stepfather or father through adoption. Additionally, wasn’t Jai Lee engaged to a woman from some university in eastern US?”

    If you read my original post, and my subsequent replies. I am trying to connect Miles to someone ON THE ISLAND in the PAST, not other characters that we have seen introduced off the Island, or characters who crashed on the Island.

    Please read my posts in this thread for a full explanation of my theories.

    WLN

  • Zonker

    WLN said

    “What I am suggesting is that on the Island, it is 30 years in the past, and we will see the Island populated by the Dharma folks. Our characters that moved with the Island are now part of the band of Others. Off Island, our survivors are in their “now.” And the same amount of time will pass for all involved. If it takes Jack and Ben and fellow travellers 6 months to get back to the Island, our time travellers will have spent 6 months in the past on the Island.

    And no, it wouldn’t have to be in a different place. The Island has not moved in place, only in time. Think of a sphere, with many concentric circles. The outer most circle is “now.” Each inner circle is a different time line, the closer to the center, the further back in time. Jack and others are on the outer most circle. Locke and others are on the next band closer to the center, 30 years in the past. But the WHOLE circle sits in the same physical spot. These are timelines, not time places.”

    ======================================================

    I could more easily grasp that if we saw the people (Juliet, Sawyer, Locke) disappear 30 years in the past, leaving the 2005 island behind. But we saw the entire island dissolve in thin air. If the whole island rematerializes 30 years ago, won’t it land “on top” of the original 1978-vintage island? Ka-boom! Is that the “Incident” that led to revision of the Swan Station protocol? Or do you think the island was missing in the mid-1970s until Ben moved it there, just in time for Pierre Chang and Dharma to land upon it? Hmmmm….

  • Justin

    LOL ^^^^

    I know what youre getting at WLN and I totally agree with your theory. I cant wait till Feb!

  • sealocust

    If lots of different timelines are playing out potentially superimposed with one another, could this explain the whispers? Could these be the “outside observers” since they seem to be commenting on the situations that are occurring? Or is this like the panopticon/glass house thing that Laura is talking about?

  • WLN

    Zonker said: “I could more easily grasp that if we saw the people (Juliet, Sawyer, Locke) disappear 30 years in the past, leaving the 2005 island behind. But we saw the entire island dissolve in thin air. If the whole island rematerializes 30 years ago, won’t it land “on top” of the original 1978-vintage island? Ka-boom! Is that the “Incident” that led to revision of the Swan Station protocol? Or do you think the island was missing in the mid-1970s until Ben moved it there, just in time for Pierre Chang and Dharma to land upon it? Hmmmm….”

    I agree with what you are saying, but at the same time, TV is a visual medium and I think the producers had to come up with some way to depict the Island “moving” in time, short of splashing up a caption with the words “30 years ago.”

    And I believe the “vanishing” still could fit with the Kerr Metric principle, or at least what the writers would “design” that the effect of the Kerr Metric would produce on a physical object.

    The Island is no longer in the same timeline as the “now” observers, there for it appears “gone.”

    I know, it’s not perfect, but I still think that’s what the series is trying to portray, and the direction they are going in. Remember, other than fictionalizing this, we have no actual demostration of these principles.

    WLN

  • WLN

    I just wanted to take a moment to thank all who have responded so far to this thread. It’s been a bit of a dry spell for Lost fans since the season closer, and I promised myself that I wouldn’t write any articles just for the sake of chattering away. I wanted to wait until we all had something new to chew on.

    And I do like how this show brings so many people of varied interests and ages together. I myself am 55 years old. And even at my age, the show and the Lost fans here and on other blogs, have open my mind to so many new topics that I wasn’t aware of.

    I can’t remember very many TV shows in my life time which has made us consider so many different aspects of life. Morals, history, science, great thinkers, good decisions, bad decisions, all of this wrapped up in a plot line that is anything but boring.

    And to think that this is almost a world wide experience. We get input on Doc Arzt from fans all over. And that in itself opens us up to the way poeple think and react the world over to these topics.

    Narrow-mindness and lack of critical thinking is a plague across this planet and Lost does a good job of pressing us to open our preceptions and consider the bigger picture.

    WLN

  • Capcom

    I am totally onboard with this Kerr idea of yours WLN. It seems to make most of what we’ve seen so far begin to fall into place. And concentric circles? Orchid logo! Wow. Great theory!

    I’m not saying that my head grasps it all clearly yet, but it sure looks good from here so far. 😀

  • Capcom

    P.S. Now could you help us to understand the apparent contradiction between the missle test and Doc Ray’s little time trip with this theory? One seems to go one way in time, and one goes the other (and actually Doc’s mortality went one way, and his face cut went the other!). Could the spinning black holes in the inner spheres be spinning in different directions? I’ve not a clue. But like you said, we can’t exactly perform any applications of these principles to test them. 🙁

  • Capcom

    P.P.S. Sorry, one more question. Chang mentioned a pinhole. I can’t find any reference to that in any of my physics books, or online. Was this just some kind of early euphemism that Chang used, perhaps not knowing yet about the terms blackholes and wormholes in 1978?

    Many thanks!! 🙂

  • WLN

    Capcom said: “P.P.S. Sorry, one more question. Chang mentioned a pinhole. I can’t find any reference to that in any of my physics books, or online. Was this just some kind of early euphemism that Chang used, perhaps not knowing yet about the terms blackholes and wormholes in 1978? Many thanks!! :-)”

    You are welcome. I just got in (11:00pm here in Colorado, and I saw your message. I went over to Lostpedia to do some research, and it seems a lot of us are on the same track with this. There are so many observant Lost fans, that it is hard to come up with an original theory. But that’s what makes this fun, we can all share and help each other out.

    Two points I found on Lostpedia. The actor, Chou, who plays Chang, said in a Lostpedia interview, that the man behind the camera is someone we know and have seen. And a Lostpedia entry suggests that Faraday set up the transmission by opening a “pinhole” to the future (our “now”).

    I went hunting around and I couldn’t find any reference to a “pinhole” related to space/time theories. And I imagine that Faraday, since he came from 2005 (when the Island “moved”), than he would be aware of all the current names and titles associated with time travel theories. I can only imagine that “pinhole” is Faraday’s term for the connection that he set up to the future. I would say it’s like a wormhole, but smaller 🙂 Really, I think we can blame this on the writers, it comes from their imagination.

    Here is part of the entry on Lostpedia – “Dr. Chang mentions a “pinhole” that he is trying to keep open. This is notable because of the Kerr metric that Dr. Chang is studing. The Kerr metric is used to describe the rotation of black holes and how everything, including light, must rotate when near a black hole. When the Kerr metric is applied to Einstien’s theory of general relativity, we get a wormhole (similar to the one in “Stargate”). According to Wikipedia: “Since the trajectory of observers and particles in general relativity are described by time-like curves, it is possible for observers in this region to return to their past.” So, in theory, time travel is possible if one uses the Kerr metric. ”

    I think we are all on to something.

    WLN

  • WLN

    Capcom said: “P.S. Now could you help us to understand the apparent contradiction between the missle test and Doc Ray’s little time trip with this theory? One seems to go one way in time, and one goes the other (and actually Doc’s mortality went one way, and his face cut went the other!). Could the spinning black holes in the inner spheres be spinning in different directions? I’ve not a clue. But like you said, we can’t exactly perform any applications of these principles to test them. :-(”

    This is only a stab in the dark, but I think it has something to do with the failsafe release from the Swan Station, our first “purple light” event.

    That event caused the Island to “move” just a little bit closer to the edge of it’s concentric timeline, therefore a little further away from the center of the timeline, which would be our “now.”

    During the episode “The Economist,” we see that the rocket’s clock reading was “03:16:23” and Daniel’s clock reading was “02:45:03,” about 31 minutes IN THE PAST.

    At the airing of that episode, we didn’t have this information that relates to the Kerr Metric, so we had no way to match what the writers had developed against some real science. The theories page on Lostpedia had so many different explanations comparing Daniel’s “payload” experiment to all kinds of scientific theories. I feel that now we know what scientific theory the producers/writers are using for the core of the shows time travel plot points.

    WLN

  • Claire

    4) In regard to Chang’s statement “Jennifer, take him out of here…” in reference to a crying baby on the video, we will find out that that is HIS baby and it is Miles.

    Season 2, Episode 17, Lockdown

    The real Henry Gale left a Jennifer a note on a $20 bill
    It said
    Jennifer,
    Well you were right. Crossing the Pacific
    isn’t easy.
    I owe you a beer. I’m hiking to one of
    the beaches to start a signal fire, but
    if you’re reading this, I guess I didn’t make it.
    I’m sorry, I love you Jenny, always have, always will.
    Yours,
    Henry

    And when Ben was pretending to be Henry Gale he said Jennifer’s maiden name was Murphy, they met at the University of Minnesota. She supposedly died three weeks previous to the events in “One of Them” of a fever which might have been the sickness. “It started as a fever. After two days she was delirious. Then she died.”

  • WLN

    Claire

    I’m not sure what connection you are trying to make. It is evident that “Jennifer,” wife of the REAL Henry Gale, was never on the Island. When Sayid dug up the grave on the Island, which Ben had said was Jennifer’s grave, he found the body of the REAL Henry Gale, not a woman.

    From Lostpedia – “Henry Gale arrived on the Island in a balloon. At some point he died of a broken neck, and Ben took on his identity. Henry was buried in a grave near the balloon, although Ben claimed (in the guise of Henry) that his wife was buried there. Sayid dug up Henry’s corpse, uncovering Ben’s ruse. In Henry’s wallet was a Minnesota driver’s license and a $20 bill with a note to his wife written on it. The balloon was sponsored and/or manufactured by Widmore Corporation and a Minnesota Metallurgy & Mining Co. It was also sponsored by Mr. Cluck’s Chicken Shack and Nozz-A-La Cola.”

    I see no connection between Henry Gale’s “Jennifer” and the Jennifer referenced in the video.

    WLN

  • Capcom

    Thanks WLM! 😀 Great points. Maybe this show is just one big long explanation of TPTB’s theory on the Bermuda Triangle, haha.

    The thing that confuses me about the missile test and Doc Ray, is that Ray (except for his face cut) seemed to have floated into the inner shell in the future (compared to freighter or outer shell time) while passing through the barrier, and the missile seemed to arrive at the inner shell in the past (compared to freighter time) after passing through.

    Maybe I’m just not interpreting the outcome of two incidents corectly. Or maybe TPTB have decided that the spinning blackhole or inner shells are unstable or unpredictable. I’ll go reread the info on Lostpedia, I’m sure that much has been added since I last perused it. Thanks again for your replies! 🙂

    P.S. I wonder if the ergosphere of Kerr’s theory might be the stormy barrier. And thinking now on Dan’s comment about the light scattering, within what we know about the Kerr theory, makes that comment even more intriguing.

  • WLN

    Capcom said: “Thanks WLM! 😀 Great points. Maybe this show is just one big long explanation of TPTB’s theory on the Bermuda Triangle, haha… I wonder if the ergosphere of Kerr’s theory might be the stormy barrier.”

    Well, now we get into the theories of the actual LOCATION of the Island, versus it’s place in time. I only started watching Lost on Jan. 1st, 2008. A friend of mine brought over Season 1 and we watched the first 4 episodes. I was hooked and I managed to watch all three past seasons before seasonn 4 started up at the end of Feb. 2008.

    One of the first things I told my friend after watching the three seasons was “The Island is located in the Artic.” Now, I know that other Lost fans who have been watching the show all these years have made similiar suggestions, but I didn’t even know about the blogs and forums and such.

    When I was in my teens and twenty’s, I was a big reader of pseudo-science books. And I had read many books about the “lost land at the north pole.” I had seen SO many “north” clues in the writing of the show, I developed a theory, apart from the theories that were already circulating.

    I think that stormy barrier surrounds the Island, and it contain numerous entry points (depending on your bearings) from different Vile Votices locations around the globe. But the Island (and it’s Kerr Metric properties) is located in the Artic.

    You can see my full theory at Lostpedia…

    http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Lost/Theories

    I will still stand by this theory even though we haven’t had many “north” clues as of late.

    But think about it. The “frozen donkey wheel” was in a below ground location that was very Artic like. The average temperature of a cave is 54 degrees (f). That “cave” was full of ice, much like you might see below the surface of any land mass in the Artic. You don’t see ice like that in a cave that is located in a tropical setting.

    Hmmmmmmm.

    WLN

  • Capcom

    Wow, going to go read your theory now.

    Wouldn’t it be funny (on us) if the guys at the arctic station were going to finish telling Penny that they found the magnetic source, “…..and it’s right here next to us!” :o)

  • DocH

    Whenever we get a new name we run it through the old anagram machine.

    I punched in “Pierre Chang”, and guess what the best anagram is?

    = “Cheap Ringer” =

    def: cheap ringer (slang) – inexpensive knock-off or imitation, copy of poor quality, deficient duplicate.

    Miles Chang =
    ‘Slim Change’ or
    ‘Mingle Cash’ or
    ‘Mangles Chi’
    (chi – the circulating life energy that in Chinese philosophy is thought to be inherent in all things.)

  • DocH

    I like the other video he appeared in the 70’s… Caddyshack.

    Rodney Dangerfield walks into the Pro Shop and says:

    “Hey everybody! Meet my friend Chang!” [8^)

  • DocH

    A friend reports…
    “I had the volume way up and used good speakers. When the baby cries he says. “Is that Miles. Just take him outside, please.”
    The word Miles was fuzzy and unclear on the other two computers I had used but very clear on our video editing computer with the good speakers.”

  • Sam G

    I don’t hear him saying Jennifer. It sounds more like Stanislar

  • Capcom

    Well WLN, I read your arctic theory and I really like the way it sounds. When I first heard rumblings about that idea, it didn’t appeal to me. But I’d nver heard of the books/stories that you mention, and that makes it sound more believable as a psuedo-science possibility. 🙂

  • ChristianS

    I’de like to add another thought: Ben was in the FDW chamber and obviously moved to a different time and place than the island. Who says that Daniel has to be at the same place or time as the whole island? He was not even ON the island when it moved. Could it not possible just be him turning up accidentally 30 years in the past, being found by the DI while Locke and all the others moved to another time and place? Then we wouldn’t have to worry about the Ka-Boom ‘Island landing on Island’ thing.

  • Capcom

    That’s a good idea ChristianS. I hope that if Daniel goes back in time, that we still get to see as much of him in S5, as we would if he were still in the present. 🙂

  • I really like all of your theories and explanations for Miles as Dr. Chang’s son.

    Do you think that Matthew Abaddon specifically chose Miles for the mission to the island because he knew that his dad had perished there in the purge, and that Miles would be able to communicate with him (and thus glean island secrets)?

    Was Miles’ attempted blackmail of Ben for $3.2 million related to his knowledge of the purge and/or father’s death, and also Ben’s complicity?

  • WLN

    JOpinionated said: …Do you think that Matthew Abaddon specifically chose Miles for the mission to the island because he knew that his dad had perished there in the purge, and that Miles would be able to communicate with him (and thus glean island secrets)?…”

    I think Abaddon represents a 3rd party who is interested in the Island. I don’t think he works for Widmore. See my previous theory at…

    http://www.docarzt.com/lost-theories/where-does-matthew-abaddons-al.php

    WLN

  • Capcom

    Miles being Chang’s son, gone back for revenge on Ben, sure does give new meaning to Miles’ extremely aggressive position on finding Ben. He looked like he was going to attack Juliet for info when Frank revealed that she was an island native. Can’t wait to see how he feels about Ben being gone, in S-5.